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Check this out, on a 351C I'm having a look at, not a fan of sleeving a block at the best of time, buts what's with the two join lines? The ones I've seen before are pressed in one go.
This is a view from the bottom of the cylinder looking up.

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Dont like that,Id have that removed,fit a one piece liner.
Had plenty of blocks sleeved with success :thumbright:
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Thanks Dave.

There isn't much going for this one at the moment, it's on 30 thou bores as it is, the crank is wrecked, as are the rods, the gudgeon pins are very tight in the pistons.
All as a result of an unchanged very elderly oil filter of an incorrect type.

For example...

The crank-

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:shock: How long had the owner been torturing that before he admitted defeat?
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Gareth wrote::shock: How long had the owner been torturing that before he admitted defeat?
Not that long, Garys Picnic this year , a few runs later, oil pressure dropped accompanied by a symphony of mechanical nastiness.
They summoned me over to have a listen, I suggested in the strongest possible terms to switch it off and not restart it again until further investigations were made, during that conversation I somehow volunteered to carry out said examination.
The engine was shipped to me and shortly after unpacking it, discovered the root cause of the carnage, the oil filter, which apparently had given sterling service in the five to possibly ten previous years, had finally given up the ghost and had attempted to depart this mortal coil via the main oil way, thus restricting lubrication to a mere trickle (see below)

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Serious???
No filter change for 5 to 10 years!!! :shock:
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They acquired the engine approximately five years ago, the filter was on it when they bought it, the casing of which had been painted silver, so we know it is a minimum of 5 years old, during the postmortem I scraped away some of the paint to reveal its origin as FIAMM, the part number of which did not cross refer to any known recommended filters for a Cleveland or indeed any Ford V8.
I last saw a FIAMM filter bearing that tampo style a fair while ago. So without rushing into too many conclusions, it may be fair to suggest that the oil filter was not only older than five years, but was not really up to the task in the first instance, all things considered I believe it did rather well, well up until the time it gave birth to itself that is.

They had however treated the engine to regular oil changes.
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Amazes me , that you would not change the filter , at the oil change intervals.
It's recommended, that my SRT Ram has an oil and filter change every 3000 miles. Mobile 1 0w /40 fully synthetic. Not cheap , but that's what it gets !!!
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I would like to think that lessons have been learnt here.
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mad machs wrote:I would like to think that lessons have been learnt here.
Yep. Never buy a Mustang! ;)
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Gareth wrote:
Yep. Never buy a Mustang! ;)
You may very well think that, but this particular example , before being transplanted into hot rod, can claim its origins more likely from the truck line of the brand, due to the sump and strainer layout, certainly not a Mustang, as they had the deep part of the sump at the front of the block.

Indeed, one could place the counter argument that any other of the available brands might have suffered total and catastrophic component failure, as in reciprocating items leaving the building, when being flailed on the drag strip with practically no oil pressure or indeed any flow rate to speak of. In other words, it stayed in one piece, granted it got mullered, but the disassembly process remained in the conventional.

In my experience, the Cleveland 335 series has been one of the better products to make it to our shores, from both North America and Australia, if you take the trouble to change the oil filter that is ;)
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So what's the plan? Might as well stroke it now...
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mad machs wrote:
Gareth wrote:
Yep. Never buy a Mustang! ;)
You may very well think that, but this particular example , before being transplanted into hot rod, can claim its origins more likely from the truck line of the brand, due to the sump and strainer layout, certainly not a Mustang, as they had the deep part of the sump at the front of the block.

Indeed, one could place the counter argument that any other of the available brands might have suffered total and catastrophic component failure, as in reciprocating items leaving the building, when being flailed on the drag strip with practically no oil pressure or indeed any flow rate to speak of. In other words, it stayed in one piece, granted it got mullered, but the disassembly process remained in the conventional.

In my experience, the Cleveland 335 series has been one of the better products to make it to our shores, from both North America and Australia, if you take the trouble to change the oil filter that is ;)
Just messing with you, Mike. I am actually quite partial to the odd Mustang. Good luck with the rebuild.

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Blue wrote:So what's the plan? Might as well stroke it now...
Was suggested and considered, however they have located another C so standing by for further instructions....
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Gareth wrote:
Just messing with you, Mike. I am actually quite partial to the odd Mustang. Good luck with the rebuild.

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Taken in the right spirit Gareth :lol:

Just waiting now to see what path they wish to go down.
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