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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 14 2:12 pm
by Carl
Yep the very one Dunc. It should now be 8 thou PTW clearance. As Les recommended.

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 14 3:15 pm
by Cannonball
Carl wrote:Yep the very one Dunc. It should now be 8 thou PTW clearance. As Les recommended.
is this not excessive les ?????? i thought 4.5 -5 what make pistons are they, do some forged grow more than others ???

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 14 10:44 pm
by mopar_mark
Cannonball wrote:
Carl wrote:Yep the very one Dunc. It should now be 8 thou PTW clearance. As Les recommended.
is this not excessive les ?????? i thought 4.5 -5 what make pistons are they, do some forged grow more than others ???
Duncan,
It's 0.008" on Diameter, which equates to .004" clearance

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 14 10:34 pm
by Mick70RR
You sure about that Mark?
I thought piston to wall clearance is the difference between the piston skirt diameter and the cylinder diameter.
0.008" sounds too much to me, 0.004" sounds about right for a forged piston in a small block.

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 14 10:38 pm
by latil
I was always taught 1 thou clearance per inch of bore 4 thou is about right.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 12:11 am
by mopar_mark
Mick70RR wrote:You sure about that Mark?
I thought piston to wall clearance is the difference between the piston skirt diameter and the cylinder diameter.
0.008" sounds too much to me, 0.004" sounds about right for a forged piston in a small block.
As I understand the bore diameter is now 0.008" bigger than the Piston skirt diameter. Therefore the clearance is 0.004"

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 10:33 am
by Mick70RR
mopar_mark wrote:
Mick70RR wrote:You sure about that Mark?
I thought piston to wall clearance is the difference between the piston skirt diameter and the cylinder diameter.
0.008" sounds too much to me, 0.004" sounds about right for a forged piston in a small block.
As I understand the bore diameter is now 0.008" bigger than the Piston skirt diameter. Therefore the clearance is 0.004"
I'd say the clearance is 0.008".

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:09 am
by Dave-R
Mick70RR wrote:
mopar_mark wrote:
Mick70RR wrote:You sure about that Mark?
I thought piston to wall clearance is the difference between the piston skirt diameter and the cylinder diameter.
0.008" sounds too much to me, 0.004" sounds about right for a forged piston in a small block.
As I understand the bore diameter is now 0.008" bigger than the Piston skirt diameter. Therefore the clearance is 0.004"
I'd say the clearance is 0.008".
I would too....

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:16 am
by Carl
Well its 0.008 now so cant do anything about it now whether its right or wrong.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:20 am
by Dave-R
Confused? :lol:

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:24 am
by Carl
Dave wrote:Confused? :lol:
Yep :scratch: Im sure Les will clarify

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:28 am
by Steve
Am I right in assuming that if the piston was perfectly centred in the bore, a 0.008 thou clearance would mean you could, in theory, run a 0.004 feeler gauge all round the piston. If the piston was pushed flush against the bore...180 deg opposite point where it touches would take a 0.008 gauge?? :read2:

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:35 am
by Carl
Yep that's about the size of it Steve

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:40 am
by Steve
Gotcha....just trying to learn from your thread Carl as its really interesting....

so the discussion at the moment is whether you should be able to run a 0.004" gauge round or a 0.002" gauge?? Sorry if its a daft question mate but Im watching your build closely and want to stay with the plot.... :oops:

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 14 11:46 am
by Dave-R
Steve wrote:Gotcha....just trying to learn from your thread Carl as its really interesting....

so the discussion at the moment is whether you should be able to run a 0.004" gauge round or a 0.002" gauge?? Sorry if its a daft question mate but Im watching your build closely and want to stay with the plot.... :oops:
And that clearence depends on the piston material. Forged pistons expand more. High silicon forgings less so. And cast pistons less again. I would be wanting 4 thou each side so a 8 though wider bore.