Anton's 68 Charger - 2012 Update

ANTON · Post by **ANTON** » Thu Dec 10, 09 10:14 pm

I spent the evening after work installing the diff and re-fitting the propshaft(with new UJ's thanks to DaveB) and then took it it out for a quick run and all seem very good and now I can perform eleven's.
Thanks to Derek for helping me put it all back together.
Once I take it out for a decent drive on Sunday I will let you know how different it is to drive. It has been along time coming but I now finally have a sure grip and better gears.

NaughtyAlan · Post by **NaughtyAlan** » Thu Dec 10, 09 10:24 pm

Just remember Anton, short runs first. Dont let the the crown heat up to much

ANTON · Post by **ANTON** » Thu Dec 10, 09 10:31 pm

NaughtyAlan wrote:Just remember Anton, short runs first. Dont let the the crown heat up to much

Alan they are secondhand gears so are already worn in. I will take it a bit easy with the new sure grip. Cheers for the advice

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Dec 10, 09 11:01 pm

Go easy till you get used to it , pretty easy to slide it into something.

R.RUNNER · Post by **R.RUNNER** » Fri Dec 11, 09 7:04 am

Brutus wrote: pretty easy to slide it into something.

Oooooooooo you are awfull, but I like you!!!!!

ANTON · Post by **ANTON** » Fri Dec 11, 09 7:33 am

This is my next little project. I want to make my own adjustable pinion snubber. I have all the bits and I took measurements last nite and have drawn it up and this is what it will look like. I'm not a fan of the pin type adjustable pinion snubber as I feel once it's been on the car for a whilr it might start to rattle so i want to make one of the threaded variety.

ANTON · Post by **ANTON** » Fri Dec 11, 09 7:34 am

R.RUNNER wrote:
Brutus wrote: pretty easy to slide it into something.

Oooooooooo you are awfull, but I like you!!!!!

Especially if you use the right lubricant

ANTON · Post by **ANTON** » Wed Dec 16, 09 8:38 pm

Here is how my adjustable pinion snubber is coming along. It is all ready to be welded up and then welded to the pinion plate.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Dec 16, 09 11:46 pm

Sorry Anton , not a fan of pinion snubbers , you might be better off clamping the front section instead , i just feel the pinion snubber will hinder traction as opposed to helping it (unloading).

Great work all the same

Ashley · Post by **Ashley** » Thu Dec 17, 09 7:13 am

Brutus wrote:Sorry Anton , not a fan of pinion snubbers , you might be better off clamping the front section instead , i just feel the pinion snubber will hinder traction as opposed to helping it (unloading).

Great work all the same

Yep, removed mine unloaded fitted

removed it and it dig's in

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Thu Dec 17, 09 8:40 am

It seems to depend on the chassis. Some cars are much better with. Some without. Not sure why.

Some people think the rear of the car has to drop to get more traction. That is wrong. If anything it should rise. But not as much as the front.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Dec 17, 09 9:41 am

Nice work Anton! Wouldn't adjustable shocks be a better option for those that arent a fan of pinion snubbers. That way you could adjust the bound/rebound for the chassis?

ANTON · Post by **ANTON** » Thu Dec 17, 09 10:17 am

I have never used one so I am going to try it out and see how it goes. I was advized buy Bacca that it is a good idea to use one to protect the springs and prop when you launch. I don't want to start buying caltracs and shocks as i will only race one or twice a year for fun, this pinion snubber is a good start and didnt cost a lot to make.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Dec 17, 09 11:30 am

Dave wrote:
Some people think the rear of the car has to drop to get more traction. That is wrong. If anything it should rise. But not as much as the front.

I think HP plays a big role here , don't think a stock motor will be able to throw enough weight to the back in order for the rear to rise up , they just tend to suat down @ the rear , as you say Dave a good set up should rise @ the rear on launch so a pinion snubber would be inefective as it would be seperated from the body by a mile , as was said a good set of shocks & springs would possibly fair better with Antons set up? , then again a pointless exercise if just having a bit of fun.

Again , nice work Anton & well thought out as usual.

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Thu Dec 17, 09 12:05 pm

The pinion can rise quite a lot on the larger cars because the front half of the spring is longer and less stiff than on the A-body and super stock springs. More so on cars that did not come originally with the 440 or Hemi.

You will not see most stock suspension cars rise up at the rear at all. Except the ones where an adjustable pinion is causing that. If the rear squats down on the launch a pinion snubber will help in most cases.

On my own car I made some changes to the rear and I am at a point now where I don't know if my snubber is needed or not. I tried without at the Nats but didn't get enough track time (or a run that worked) to look into it and compare. I am going to try again in May next year so as to iron things out before the Nats this time.