Firmfeel steering ?

Moderator: Moderators

User avatar
Matt
Posts: 1023
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 04 10:57 pm
Location: Matt Snowball, Tongham Surrey

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by Matt »

AFAIK:

66-70 B-Body V8 K-Members will all interchange successfully
Whilst E-body, and 70-71 B Body K members will install on your car, the steering box will be mounted at the wrong angle


From what I read on the internet I suspect the larger spline pitman may require the later drag link and idler as well, but I have no actual personal experience of this.

<<67-72 manual and power boxes use the same pitman (small sector, early linkage)
73+ power steering (large sector, late linkage)
73+ manual (small sector, late linkage. This can also be used on a small sector power box to use a 73+ steering center link on an earlier car)
>>



I'd be tempted to get a large-spline pitman from somewhere and see what it looks like. I believe the retaining nut and washer are larger as well.

I'll check my stuff later and see if I have one.
User avatar
Pete
Posts: 21944
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 04 10:49 pm
Location: MMA Chairman

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by Pete »

'72 up Challenger / Cuda has a different Pitman and nut to a '70 - '71 from memory.... and thus different to "B" Body.... agree on the box angle too but not really material....
Pete Wiseman; Cambridge.

Mopar by the grace of God
User avatar
autofetish
Posts: 5599
Joined: Sat May 21, 11 6:43 am

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by autofetish »

Bananarama! it

I'm also running quick ratio aftermarket pitman arms.....

I shall order the correct power steering box....


I can see a for sale add coming up...
The closer you are to death the more alive you are
User avatar
Dave999
Posts: 9427
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 05 10:31 am
Location: Twickenham,London, England

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by Dave999 »

did you cut off your steering shaft? I can't see pictures at work.....

if not buy the kit from bergman auto you get the pot coupler and pipes in the kit.... no cutting no solid joint between box and steering shaft = long lived steering box bearings
The Greater Knapweed near the Mugwort by the Buckthorn tree is dying
User avatar
Blue
Posts: 14164
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 04 11:29 pm
Location: Straight outta Royston

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by Blue »

Wasn't aware of the steering box angle difference between the early and later B/E K frame, handy to know.
“This ain’t no party, this ain’t no disco, this ain’t no foolin’ around”
User avatar
autofetish
Posts: 5599
Joined: Sat May 21, 11 6:43 am

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by autofetish »

Blue wrote: Fri Jan 03, 20 12:12 pm Wasn't aware of the steering box angle difference between the early and later B/E K frame, handy to know.

Im not sure it is as the new box arrived and it's identical.

The only difference between a 1 1/4 box and 1 1/8 box aka (early / late) is the size of the output splines .. 1 1/4 and 1 1/8.
The closer you are to death the more alive you are
User avatar
autofetish
Posts: 5599
Joined: Sat May 21, 11 6:43 am

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by autofetish »

My review is good

The unit does what it says on the tin and really happy.

It’s lighter than I was expecting which is great as I love my PS


With no play I now feel I have more confidence to drive it quicker.

Great upgrade should have done it in the beginning :salute:
Attachments
B96166F0-CA13-4C52-B39A-DAF8E2EDDB82.jpeg
B96166F0-CA13-4C52-B39A-DAF8E2EDDB82.jpeg (119.16 KiB) Viewed 1301 times
5235CC39-00E7-46E6-9205-42972E3B8320.jpeg
5235CC39-00E7-46E6-9205-42972E3B8320.jpeg (154.56 KiB) Viewed 1301 times
F2584FAF-24FF-463C-8066-928004504AAF.jpeg
F2584FAF-24FF-463C-8066-928004504AAF.jpeg (150.54 KiB) Viewed 1301 times
The closer you are to death the more alive you are
User avatar
morgan
Posts: 4130
Joined: Sat Sep 10, 05 7:22 pm
Location: Berkhamsted - Herts.

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by morgan »

I cant believe you managed that 'in situ' ! Well done.
My rebuilt steering box is super light now but I wouldnt say the feel is any better. Good move i think.
"Cum homine de cane debeo congredi." Woof.

Current Charger status - "Working !"
User avatar
Dave999
Posts: 9427
Joined: Thu Feb 24, 05 10:31 am
Location: Twickenham,London, England

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by Dave999 »

whack in some more +castor front turn buckle thingo on both of you new fandangle upper arms 1/2 turn longer each

Dave
The Greater Knapweed near the Mugwort by the Buckthorn tree is dying
User avatar
MrNorm
Posts: 3254
Joined: Sun Apr 18, 04 10:52 pm
Location: Cheshunt Gavin~Chisholm

Re: Firmfeel steering ?

Post by MrNorm »

autofetish wrote: Tue Jan 14, 20 8:56 am
Blue wrote: Fri Jan 03, 20 12:12 pm Wasn't aware of the steering box angle difference between the early and later B/E K frame, handy to know.
Im not sure it is as the new box arrived and it's identical.
The box is identical, it's the K-Frame that's different - the tabs mount the box at a slightly different angle.....
Gavin Chisholm - 414ci W2 Stroker SmallBlock Panther Pink '71 Challenger convertible - in bits
Car progress can be viewed here
Post Reply