New starter or rebuild it?
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New starter or rebuild it?
Just a quick question,i have a 318 with headers and the starter is tired,sticking a lot and sometimes turns over slow,needs a knock to get going.
Now,do i rebuild it or buy a new one?
Now,do i rebuild it or buy a new one?
Re: New starter or rebuild it?
Buy a new mini starter, you won't look back.
Are we there yet dad ..... 10 to the gallon but worth it.
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
Will turn it over twice as fast - amazing things.
There are various, some cheap-as and some expensive. I broke an expensive one and am currently running a cheap one and cane see any difference - Dave999 knows more than I. I do know heat kills them if you have hot-headers so I wrapped it this time.
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
yeah on a US mopar, well on cars at least from the era we like, any starter for a mid 90s 318 magnum works say mid 90s dodge truck starter
Its a denso starter
i have been using a US sourced rebuilt cheapo for the last 5 years cost me about £50 and then 40 odd to ship
but still...
work on 273 318 340 360 400 440
10 tooth 35 mm pinion
this would do the job
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Mini-Sta ... Sw~gpgD0x4
keep in mind to buy some crimp on connectors. no guarantee that your car will have the same as the starter
obviously the eye for the main feed will work but the switch wire could be small ring or spade.
if you still run a ballast resistor leave the 3rd wire off
this normally plugs into a switched 12 volt supply that is ON when the key is turned to start and off at all other times
and there was a connector for it on your old starter. if you leave it taped up a modern battery makes up for it..... they sag less when under load
Mopar retrofit terminal set for Denso starters here
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mopar-mini-s ... SwLi1co~X3
i never bothered
Dave
Its a denso starter
i have been using a US sourced rebuilt cheapo for the last 5 years cost me about £50 and then 40 odd to ship
but still...
work on 273 318 340 360 400 440
10 tooth 35 mm pinion
this would do the job
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Mini-Sta ... Sw~gpgD0x4
keep in mind to buy some crimp on connectors. no guarantee that your car will have the same as the starter
obviously the eye for the main feed will work but the switch wire could be small ring or spade.
if you still run a ballast resistor leave the 3rd wire off
this normally plugs into a switched 12 volt supply that is ON when the key is turned to start and off at all other times
and there was a connector for it on your old starter. if you leave it taped up a modern battery makes up for it..... they sag less when under load
Mopar retrofit terminal set for Denso starters here
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mopar-mini-s ... SwLi1co~X3
i never bothered
Dave
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
if you car is Australian or has an Australian drivetrain come back and there are options
If your current stater is a 9 tooth 25 mm pinion or 10 tooth 27 mm pinion BOSCH...you have an Australian ring gear and starter
and ingenuity will be necessary
just get same starter above and it will need a pinion swap
if it is Australian and has a 727 and a v8 it used a US starter 35 mm pinion etc same as US
Dave
If your current stater is a 9 tooth 25 mm pinion or 10 tooth 27 mm pinion BOSCH...you have an Australian ring gear and starter
and ingenuity will be necessary
just get same starter above and it will need a pinion swap
if it is Australian and has a 727 and a v8 it used a US starter 35 mm pinion etc same as US
Dave
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
other alternative is one of these
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/9300-Powerma ... SwiCRUks7E
same body
same snout
potentially different windings and gearing in the motor
these are modular starters so for hi torque the Chrysler snout is pared with gearing and a motor unit from a bigger or heavier engine like a diesel
but its not hard to rebuild one so i tend to just buy the cheap ones not the 300 quid jobby
Dave
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/9300-Powerma ... SwiCRUks7E
same body
same snout
potentially different windings and gearing in the motor
these are modular starters so for hi torque the Chrysler snout is pared with gearing and a motor unit from a bigger or heavier engine like a diesel
but its not hard to rebuild one so i tend to just buy the cheap ones not the 300 quid jobby
Dave
The Greater Knapweed near the Mugwort by the Buckthorn tree is dying
Re: New starter or rebuild it?
your orginal one of these will work
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/for-Mopar-38 ... %3A2334524
but its hole is too big
glue it in the right place with silicone
or tie a thin thread through the top bolt hole which will be snapped when you put in the bolt
just keeps the shim in the right place for getting the bolt in
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/for-Mopar-38 ... %3A2334524
but its hole is too big
glue it in the right place with silicone
or tie a thin thread through the top bolt hole which will be snapped when you put in the bolt
just keeps the shim in the right place for getting the bolt in
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
Thanks guys,and Dave999,you always go above and beyond in helping other people in answering questions,you must be able to type as fast as superman.Always a font of mopar knowledge,cheers.
Re: New starter or rebuild it?
No probs
did a bit of work last year to get mine working and had a lot of input from Luke Wos at WOSP. Nice chap and quite free with the details on denso starters
which is very nice given that his business is starters for race cars
provided bits to try and advice etc
all round good chap
you can take your car to him, and based on size, compression and no. of cylinders he will build a starter....
http://www.wosperformance.co.uk/
i.e dealing with a dude here and a guarantee here might be useful for really high $$$$ cars
he can build you anything you want but it will be a few more ££ than the rebuilt one i listed which should be fine and dandy for anything with OEM or medium performance
Dave
did a bit of work last year to get mine working and had a lot of input from Luke Wos at WOSP. Nice chap and quite free with the details on denso starters
which is very nice given that his business is starters for race cars
provided bits to try and advice etc
all round good chap
you can take your car to him, and based on size, compression and no. of cylinders he will build a starter....
http://www.wosperformance.co.uk/
i.e dealing with a dude here and a guarantee here might be useful for really high $$$$ cars
he can build you anything you want but it will be a few more ££ than the rebuilt one i listed which should be fine and dandy for anything with OEM or medium performance
Dave
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
Definitely go mini starter,lots more room around headers, faster turning. Win win.
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
the only loss is it doesn't sounds like 1960s mopar when starting... sounds like a neon instead
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
I was just about to order that one in the ebay link dave999 put above,when i remembered i need to make an order this week from Rockauto,so i compared it to the one in the ebay ad and it looks correct and rockauto recommend it for my car.
It is a mini starter isnt it?
It is a mini starter isnt it?
Re: New starter or rebuild it?
yeah they are all the same
that will also do the job
was probably assembled by the same mexican chap
Dave
that will also do the job
was probably assembled by the same mexican chap
Dave
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Re: New starter or rebuild it?
I ordered that very starter motor pictured above,from Rockauto.
Arrived in 3 days and fit like a glove,super impressed with Rockauto.I paid extra for express shipping,should i have bothered?how fast do things usually come from Rockauto using standard shipping?
Fitted the new starter,turned the key and nothing,but it fires straight away if you jump the solenoid on the wing.
Really torquey starter,but Dave999 was right,i prefer the sound of the mopar starter.
So now i just have to find out why it doesnt turn over off the key.
I wonder if the old starter knacked the relay?There used to be sparks flying out of the starter when it was trying to turn over and now i have it off the car it looks really crusty.
Arrived in 3 days and fit like a glove,super impressed with Rockauto.I paid extra for express shipping,should i have bothered?how fast do things usually come from Rockauto using standard shipping?
Fitted the new starter,turned the key and nothing,but it fires straight away if you jump the solenoid on the wing.
Really torquey starter,but Dave999 was right,i prefer the sound of the mopar starter.
So now i just have to find out why it doesnt turn over off the key.
I wonder if the old starter knacked the relay?There used to be sparks flying out of the starter when it was trying to turn over and now i have it off the car it looks really crusty.
Re: New starter or rebuild it?
Rock Auto have been very good for me, usually 5 days with standard shipping. Some places in the UK can't manage that.
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