Small block manual Clutch help
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Small block manual Clutch help
Morning yes its me again still tinkering with the cortina
I need some info and help please?
I have a 318 with a dart flywheel I think? along with the bell-housing to go with it.
I am mating a Ford T5 to the 318, and thinking of using the V6 11in Ford pressure plate?
My first question is, can I buy a mopar clutch with the same 10 spline drive as the T5 box?
If not ?
Second question is where to buy a mopar pressure plate? best price £??
I just want a standard clutch Thanks
I need some info and help please?
I have a 318 with a dart flywheel I think? along with the bell-housing to go with it.
I am mating a Ford T5 to the 318, and thinking of using the V6 11in Ford pressure plate?
My first question is, can I buy a mopar clutch with the same 10 spline drive as the T5 box?
If not ?
Second question is where to buy a mopar pressure plate? best price £??
I just want a standard clutch Thanks
Re: Small block manual Clutch help
Mopar use 18 or 23 spline. I assume if you use a 10.5 clutch plate to fit your box, and a 10.5 clutch cover that bolts up to the flywheel you'll be sorted. a decent clutch and brake supplier (if such a thing exsists anymore) would be able to supply UK sourced parts to suit, cluctches in these old cars were not normally brand specific.
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aussie ford falcon plate 10" well 250 or so MM US v6 plate 10 inch, here is a mustang one https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/for ... disc,10605
US ford mustang v8 plate 11 inch i think
both 10 fat spline plates
there is a 9.5 inch one as well. Which i would have used if my clutch was still standard aussie 6 cylinder
i'd buy a 318 clutch from rockauto and use a jeep release bearing
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/dod ... plate,1988
but they are 10.5 inch clutch covers so potentially no good with an 11 inch clutch plate...
lever style cover used with flat profile release bearing
diaphragm plate used with convex profile release bearing
US ford mustang v8 plate 11 inch i think
both 10 fat spline plates
there is a 9.5 inch one as well. Which i would have used if my clutch was still standard aussie 6 cylinder
i'd buy a 318 clutch from rockauto and use a jeep release bearing
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/dod ... plate,1988
but they are 10.5 inch clutch covers so potentially no good with an 11 inch clutch plate...
lever style cover used with flat profile release bearing
diaphragm plate used with convex profile release bearing
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Re: Small block manual Clutch help
Thanks guys,
Is there a difference in the bolt pattern on the flywheels?
What I mean is did they change the clutch cover to flywheel bolt pattern on the the later magnum engines 1994 on?
As I have found this and it looks to have the 10 spline drive
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-05-072/overview/
Is there a difference in the bolt pattern on the flywheels?
What I mean is did they change the clutch cover to flywheel bolt pattern on the the later magnum engines 1994 on?
As I have found this and it looks to have the 10 spline drive
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/luk-05-072/overview/
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Also this guy says that he uses a dodge Dakota plate ?
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why not just re-drill the Mopar flywheel to take the complete ford clutch?
Re: Small block manual Clutch help
If it is a UK Ford Box, the pitch of the splines are different even if the shaft diameter and number of splines are the same.
Check carefully...
Check carefully...
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Re: Small block manual Clutch help
Yes, I think you should be Ok,
We had a Cobra in at work with a Mopar / European Ford Set up - we had to buy two clutch packages and mix and match them!!!
We had a Cobra in at work with a Mopar / European Ford Set up - we had to buy two clutch packages and mix and match them!!!
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Re: Small block manual Clutch help
yeah a mustang box has the 10 spline shaft that is the same as all US and AUS ford T5s
the T5 was used in a jeep for a very short spell but i doubt very much if the input shaft was a ford one
the dakota used an aisin warner ax box and they don't share the spline with ford either. the box had the same front case bolt pattern as the W58 and R154 toyota boxes don't believe chrysler used the T5 i.e a 4 cylinder dakota can supply you with a bellhousing that fits a 318 and a W58 or R154 not a T5
if you are stuck these guys will build you a plate with whatever you want in the middle
have used them to reface aussie chrysler plate before all good
http://www.autoandindustrial.co.uk/
The dakota release bearing works
and you might need a dakota spigot roller and a ford spigot roller to build a custom ford roller in a chrysler carrier
or you can pay $75 + import to get one from a trans swap specialist..... easier to rockauto for a few $$ and get a vice and some sockets out
or set up so you can use a spigot bush in the crank end...which will need to be custom
Dave
the T5 was used in a jeep for a very short spell but i doubt very much if the input shaft was a ford one
the dakota used an aisin warner ax box and they don't share the spline with ford either. the box had the same front case bolt pattern as the W58 and R154 toyota boxes don't believe chrysler used the T5 i.e a 4 cylinder dakota can supply you with a bellhousing that fits a 318 and a W58 or R154 not a T5
if you are stuck these guys will build you a plate with whatever you want in the middle
have used them to reface aussie chrysler plate before all good
http://www.autoandindustrial.co.uk/
The dakota release bearing works
and you might need a dakota spigot roller and a ford spigot roller to build a custom ford roller in a chrysler carrier
or you can pay $75 + import to get one from a trans swap specialist..... easier to rockauto for a few $$ and get a vice and some sockets out
or set up so you can use a spigot bush in the crank end...which will need to be custom
Dave
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Thanks Dave and Lital
Great info
Well it looks like a I need a Ford V8 302 10.5 plate 1-1/16" 10 spline, as the V6 plate I got with the box is 11in and a small block dart pressure plate.
Great info
Well it looks like a I need a Ford V8 302 10.5 plate 1-1/16" 10 spline, as the V6 plate I got with the box is 11in and a small block dart pressure plate.
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Still on the subject of clutch plates,
There seems to be a 10 spine clutch plate for the 1963 to 1965 dart, does anyone know which darts had the 10 spine crutches? I just wanted to see if the spines were the same as the American Ford ?-
I have this one on eBay.com item number 143145487967
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-TO-65-D ... Sw5k1ccd1y
There seems to be a 10 spine clutch plate for the 1963 to 1965 dart, does anyone know which darts had the 10 spine crutches? I just wanted to see if the spines were the same as the American Ford ?-
I have this one on eBay.com item number 143145487967
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-TO-65-D ... Sw5k1ccd1y