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Posted: Tue Jun 12, 12 9:24 pm
by MattH
V8 Sam wrote:Wow Dave! That was awesome!

And here's me thinking they just changed the charger shape cos the Aussies didn't like it!

:D
If you put an Aussie and a US Charger side by side you realise that apart from the name nothing else is the same.
US is a B body, Aus is an A body. The Aussie one is nearly 2 feet shorter.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 12 10:21 pm
by daward
Thanks for the comments guys
The black sure doesn't look so good close-up...

Currently lots of thinking going on, but plan is to get on with the major work first rather than Bananarama! back onto the road. I'll keep the updates coming!
David

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 12 9:10 am
by MattH
David, just remember that it is easy to dismantle and alot longer to put back together. I am sure with 3 of you on the case you will sort it really quickly but beware doing stuff for the sake of it.
My quick strip down on my Challenger started in 1995 and it is still a bare shell now, hence why I bought the Charger as a car to use whilst finishing the other one.

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 12 9:37 am
by Pete
LOTS of photgraphs during dismantling is key..........and a decent manual...

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 12 10:38 am
by Dave999
decent manual

some here

http://www.hemi6pack.com/forum/local_links.php?catid=4

this section also includes an egine manual scan

you need to be a member

http://www.hemi6pack.com/forum/content.php

costs nout to sign up

an irreverant bunch of aussie loons

look through all the docs

some factory blueprints as well


would suggest real dealer manual is best these come up on ebay reasonably regaulary both here and Oz

there are Gregorys and Scientific publications manuals out there for much less and they contain much less good starter though


Max Ellerey copies are copies of the orginal factory manual

you'd need part 1 and part 2

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat ... ant+manual

Dave

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 12 2:42 pm
by VGVIP
Like the original lights myself.
But of all the fronts I like the VK the best.

This may help if you have now figured out if you have not got the original buckets for the outer pair. Just get the seller to throw the lights that are stuffed in the bin before post to keep the weight down.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Chrysler-Val ... 43b0ac96e6

Posted: Wed Jun 13, 12 2:50 pm
by Dave999
yeah you can fit those with US sourced adjusters and plastic nuts

plastic nylon white push fit nut and screws that look like the twist lock shanks used in IKEA furniture

Dave

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 12 1:15 pm
by Dave81
Cracking car.

Am i right in thinking that the Aussie Charger ran on SBP wheels??

Love the slots......... 8-)

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 12 1:19 pm
by Cannonball
Dave81 wrote:Cracking car.

Am i right in thinking that the Aussie Charger ran on SBP wheels??

Love the slots......... 8-)
no 4.5

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 12 2:22 pm
by VGVIP
Dave81 wrote:Cracking car.

Am i right in thinking that the Aussie Charger ran on SBP wheels??

Love the slots......... 8-)
The VG was the last aussei val/chrysler using sbp, even then some of the late VGs had bbp. At the change of body shape in the VH and CH range (charger, hardtop, sedan, wagon and ute) they were all bbp

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 12 2:32 pm
by Dave999
yeah 4.5 dunc (and steve) is correctomundo
chargers got 14 inch charger wheels in steel which are unique to charger and Pacer in Oz

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VALIANT-SPOR ... 2eb7066e03

or ROH or Sankey benson Jellybean slot mags with slot in dust cap

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Valiant-Char ... 2571ae4e6c

so if you want 4 inch PCD you need pre 71 valiant wheels

i. R S AP5 AP6 VC VE VF VG wheels


early aussies were 5 on 4 inch

and got standard mopar 14 inchers 4 inch PCD with valiant hub caps
or the same ROH alloys with the 4 inch PCD

set on ebay at the mo. but wrong caps

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VALIANT-R-VG ... 2ebacdb182

these are odd

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Valiant-R-S- ... 4ab891a023



Dave

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 12 4:50 pm
by daward
So If I'm thinking bigger diameter to uprate the brakes what are my 15" (or even 16") options then.... I do like the Wolfrace slots though!

Posted: Thu Jun 14, 12 5:47 pm
by Dave999
any US 15 inch mopar ford wheel...

however you don't need to get rid of the 14s to upgrade brakes

in the first instance VJ calipers work much better

OR

4 pot upgrades


sumitomo calipers off a landcruiser can be fitted

65 or 75 series hilux landcruiser 4 runner and surf

mid 90s

like these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TOYOTA-4RUNNE ... 231e446964


method

get new pads

check they fit your disks...the calipers come in vented and none vented widths
if you get none vented disk width
widen the slot by 1/2 mm on both sides by gentle application of cutting disk (where face sheild..cutting disk better than grinding disk to shave it off incrementally)

split calipers and re kit

press a small section of copper pipe into each mounting hole or the hollow bellhousing dowels off a suzuki 4x4

bolt them onto stub using the orginal bolts
check if the edge of your Bananarama! the pad retaining pins
if they do

take disks down by 2-3 mm in a lathe i.e take off the crusty unswept area

then get a mopar to landcruiser flexi pipe made up for each side

enjoy 4 pot calipers and progressive peddle....

might need brake bias adjuster to keep back end from locking up

these calipers designed to stop a heavy and often loaded truck with taller tyre at same radial distance from hub centre

i.e your 1.3 tonne valiant is not going to upset them....



if you go for 15 or 16 inch wheels with 4 inch back space

Jag 4 pot calipers off an XJ fit

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JAGUAR-XJ-S2- ... 3f1881dc84

huge they are AAU2102 and AAU2103


only issue is you have 2-3 mm of pad over hang at each end


this excess friction material should be removed before venturing onto the street

you need US to british flexi and the caliper end must be banjo
you might need to make up a 2-3 mm spacer to sit between caliper and mount to centralise the disk in the caliper slot


if you want a pair...i know where there are some

The Aussie Group Nc touring car racers use these too good effect
its a vintage series that must use perfromance upgrades avilable at the time the car was new

hence brand new willwoods NO but manky old jag calipers YES

same mounting centres as mopar stub just like landcruiser

just the landcruiser has metric holes.


TrevD on this board can make up new pistons in stainless if you provide him with a template

Dave

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 6:41 pm
by daward
Spent some more quality time with the Charger yesterday...body's coming on nicely.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 12 6:43 pm
by daward
and some more...