new springs

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Wed Aug 08, 07 11:00 pm

fit them and see what the rideheight is like your old ones may have bigger arch but are prob week and sagging, size off the front eye wont matter

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Thu Aug 09, 07 8:35 am

The 440 and 426 Challengers had a smaller front eye for better performance and cornering.

What spec are your new springs? Normally when you order them you have to state the cars specification.

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Thu Aug 09, 07 11:39 am

how would the different size eye help dave, or was it just a quick way to recognise them

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Thu Aug 09, 07 2:05 pm

Less body and suspension twist with that small diameter front bush Dunc. It was part of the 440/426 spec that also gave you the welded on torque boxes like the convertibles. Not sure if all convertibles got a small bush or not though.

Leaf springs and their bushes actually act a little like (but no substitute for) anti-roll bars. They also act a little like a panhard rod.
Which is why Poly bushes in the rear really help with handling.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Aug 09, 07 2:56 pm

Interesting posts.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Aug 09, 07 4:01 pm

I got some XHD springs for my cuda recently (as the old ones went S shaped after racing at NATs last year). Anyway the ride height is exactly the same which gives me some clearance issues getting on and off the ferry and over sleeping policemen (why don't they go sleep on the pavement instead).

So should i:
Maybe maybe go for the super stock springs, would they work better.
Or i relocate the front hanger, or longer adjustable rear shackles.
Most of my driving is on the street.
So i can sympathize Dave.
Anyone Any thoughts to raise an inch or 2.

Post by **TyreFryer** » Thu Aug 09, 07 4:19 pm

Keith, I put HD springs on my Challenger because I didn't want to hike it up at the back but also because I was advised (was it you Dave) that SS springs are designed for drag racing and don't handle as well on the road.

Dave-R · Post by **Dave-R** » Thu Aug 09, 07 6:51 pm

Quite right Martin.

ESPO always ask the spec of your car when you order springs. They then supply to suit.

If you uprate the rears over stock you should of course also fit front torsion bars uprated the same percentage to maintain the balance of the car. Otherwise you will oversteer.

Being mopars the ballance was not always right to start with of course. Which gives you the chance to put that right by understanding spring rates and the effects on the dynamics of the car. Adjusting as needed.

David340's springs are stock 440/426 springs from MoPar Performance by the sounds of it.

Kev · Post by **Kev** » Thu Aug 09, 07 10:03 pm

TyreFryer wrote:Keith, I put HD springs on my Challenger because I didn't want to hike it up at the back but also because I was advised (was it you Dave) that SS springs are designed for drag racing and don't handle as well on the road.

I thought the satellite was gonna be a strip terror, Martin?

Post by **TyreFryer** » Fri Aug 10, 07 10:59 am

Kev wrote:
TyreFryer wrote:Keith, I put HD springs on my Challenger because I didn't want to hike it up at the back but also because I was advised (was it you Dave) that SS springs are designed for drag racing and don't handle as well on the road.
I thought the satellite was gonna be a strip terror, Martin?

Are you drunk Kev or going senile?

Ivor · Post by **Ivor** » Fri Aug 10, 07 1:07 pm

He's from Issix Martin, he thinks Challenger spells Satellite.

Jon · Post by **Jon** » Fri Aug 10, 07 8:20 pm

putting ss springs on the charger vastly improved the handling on the road..
mind you..the original springs were knackered

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Tue Aug 14, 07 10:20 pm

Are you drunk Kev or going senile?

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