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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 07 6:43 pm
by Kev
10.5 static? Work out your dynamic cr as this is real world....
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 07 7:25 pm
by Blue
Pete, need to know how far the piston is down the bore at TDC and how many cc the heads are to work out the static compression. Factoring in the cam profile will give the dynamic compression which is the important bit. Ideally you would want the piston at zero deck or very close to it (flush with the cylinder head face) to get maximum quench.
Posted: Tue Nov 20, 07 7:50 pm
by MrNorm

You didn't say what heads you have either? (Doesn't change what you need to do but will change what an acceptable static, therefore dynamic CR is).
What makes you say it is 10.5:1? If it is just the piston spec it doesn't really mean much without the other stuff.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 5:07 pm
by Anonymous
Hi Techies,
Whats the formula for dynamic compression?
I assume its knowing when the inlet valve closes on compression stroke, then refiguring the swept volume?
Am I right with that or is it much more complex?
Baccy.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 5:22 pm
by Ivor
I'm a big fan of cylinder pressure, but that can change with all sorts of variables, not least the cam!
The way I understand it Baccy is that a static 12:1 static compression ratio means that the swept volume of the cylinder is 12 times the volume of the combustion area.
Dynamic compression ratio is the swept area of the cylinder from when the intake valve closes so that depends on the cam timing and is therefore lower than static compression ratio.
Does that make sense?
It does to me!
Oops, forghot to mention, I reckon you are right!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 5:24 pm
by dustymopar
Baccy, Have mailed you a thang that sort of calculates it

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 5:28 pm
by Ivor
Can you stick it on the board Dusty? I reckon we could all use that!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 5:34 pm
by dustymopar
This may help....
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 5:57 pm
by Ivor
Fantastic, thanks mate, I'm going to use that!

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 6:16 pm
by Blue
This is a good article,
http://www.popularhotrodding.com/engine ... index.html
Based on what I've read I'm planning to start off with a static compression of 11.5, and choose a cam to end up with a dynamic ratio of about 9.5 with around 200psi of cylinder pressure. This hopefully will run OK on pump gas, unless I'm somehow misunderstanding the tech......
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 10:27 pm
by Anonymous
From what i understand , anything over 10.5 static compression will yield detonation on pump gas , not worth the risk , my intended stroker will be zero decked , 84cc combustion chambers , twelve cc dished flat top pistons with 40 thou compressed head gasket , anything more or less than a 40 thou quench can lead to detonation.
Those yanks like throwing ideas around.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 10:47 pm
by mopar_mark
Adam68 wrote:From what i understand , anything over 10.5 static compression will yield detonation on pump gas , not worth the risk , my intended stroker will be zero decked , 84cc combustion chambers , twelve cc dished flat top pistons with 40 thou compressed head gasket , anything more or less than a 40 thou quench can lead to detonation.
Those yanks like throwing ideas around.

Adam,
Please refrain from from giving to much information away, this is the UK Mopar Muscle board, not the USA version

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 07 10:54 pm
by Anonymous
mopar_mark wrote:Adam68 wrote:From what i understand , anything over 10.5 static compression will yield detonation on pump gas , not worth the risk , my intended stroker will be zero decked , 84cc combustion chambers , twelve cc dished flat top pistons with 40 thou compressed head gasket , anything more or less than a 40 thou quench can lead to detonation.
Those yanks like throwing ideas around.

Adam,
Please refrain from from giving to much information away, this is the UK Mopar Muscle board, not the USA version


, too right Mark , am i gonna have to start lookin over me shoulder , or will i be doin that @ the track.
