Hemi Runner v GS Stage 1....Who's King?

[bananaskin]

[AllKiller]

Hemi wins with just visual appeal alone

[Anonymous]

I am so bored every time this old chestnut raises its head.

What a load of rubbish Sandy does write sometimes. This Buick vs Hemi conflict only exists in the mind of Buick enthusiasts with a chip on their shoulder. Hemi owners don’t give a damn.

Is it common knowledge that Hemi owners drive around in fear that a Buick may pull up alongside them and give them a hiding? – I don’t think so.

When you look at the Hemi’s achievements over more than 40 years in Nascar, Pro Stock, Super Stock, Top Fuel, Drag Boats, Land Speed records, and more, as well as some of the toughest street cars on the planet, then look at the Buick 455, - where is it? The answer is nowhere.

I am not saying the Buick 455 engine is not a good engine, - it is, so are the big Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Mopar (wedge) motors, any of these can be strong opponents.- But they are all on the second rung of the ladder.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, and nothing is going to persuade me (or any other right thinking person) any different:

The best engines of the Musclecar era were the big block Chevy and the Chrysler Hemi.!

Jim, I'll let your post speak for itself.

It's certainly put me and all your fellow MoPar owners who don't have a hemi in our place.

Bring your bad boy hemi out and show us all what it can do at next years Nats. No doubt it will carve its way through Stock Appearing and King of Street without batting a hemispherical eyelash, and put all those pesky 'B' and 'RB' blocks in their place.

All the best

[BUDGIE]

Now now lad's....... I didn't expect this........



Jim.....what say you.....

[Cannonball]

Now now lad's....... I didn't expect this........



Jim.....what say you.....

YOUR LOVIN IT BUDGE

[Anonymous]

It's all right, Mal.

We've been around these doors before.

Jim has his view, and I have mine.

Can't fault his enthusiasm for MoPars.

I wish he would post more on here, and I wish I would post less.

All the best

[Jim]

I stand by what I said before. I find this subject so boring. I just don’t give a damn.

This nonsense began back in 1984. Muscle Car Review used road-test data from old issues of Motor Trend, Car & Driver, and other magazines to decide which was the fastest musclecar. MCR said the '70 Buick GS Stage 1 was the third fastest with a 13.38 quarter-mile e.t. and the fastest Hemi-powered musclecar, a 13.50-second '68 Charger, was back in fifth place. – Therefore a Buick GS Stage 1 was a faster car than a Hemi Charger.

Well, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out the truth of this.

I believe a stone stock Hemi Charger will run 13.50.

I have owned several ‘stock’ Hemi cars, and they will run mid 13’s straight out of the box. OK, I haven’t run 13.50, the best I ever managed in a bog standard Hemi was 13.62 with no traction, in my ’69 Road Runner, I can tell you that car was totally stock. But that doesn’t prove anything. I have only ever made a dozen or so runs up the quarter in a car in my life. I am not a racer. If I was a better driver, and messed around with optimum timing, tyre pressures etc, I am sure I could have run 13.50, - or maybe better. I remember John Maynard doing just that in his stock 67 Hemi GTX at the very first Mopar Euronats at Santa Pod in 1994. He got it down to 13.25.

I don’t believe a stock Buick GS Stage 1 455 can run 13.38 as it left the factory. They just don’t do that. I don’t care what anyone says, bog stock that is a 14 second car.

So all this began because a race prepared Buick can beat a stock Hemi Charger. Big deal. Hemi’s have been out there every day for over 40 years beating everybody, but that doesn’t count.

As I said before; it is only a bunch of sad Buick owners with a chip on their shoulder that can hold up just one thing and say “look here’s proof!!”
Well, I’m not interested in hearing it, and I doubt many others are either.

[Stu]

That was a lengthy damn-not-given!

[Jim]

Oh well..... 'nuff said.

Let's get on with life.

[AllKiller]

I reakon a 383 will whip em all

Anyway, didnt Hot Rod or Car Craft do a real lfe test on the top Muscle for 69. and the 429 Shotgun Mustang came out tops

Slalom, 1/4, braking and 0-60 etc

[Jim]

Dunno about that?

'Doesn't seem likely. - unless it was another 'ringer'.

[AllKiller]

I think it was posted on here, lots of video footage, very interesting and enlightening....someone might find the link
Worth looking at

[Dave-R]

I wonder where a Hemi (or any MoPar) would come in the build quality stakes though?

[RobTwin]

I have a link to something like that on my home compooter. Will have a look later, but I think they were '70 cars.

Seem to remember the result would please Sandy more than Jim

[Dave-R]

Well we don't love them for their build quality do we?

Just as well really.