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Myth busting Mossy.
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:28 pm
by Mossy68
I was mentioning my recent Jeep purchase to a young fella I work along side with now and again. He is into off roading 4x4's and drives a heavily modded Landy. We were discussing Jeep mods , and I was talking about cold air induction. He said he had loads of pipe , tubing and filters etc and would have a rummage to see what he had.
Yesterday he turned up with an ally tube and 90degree rubber bend he had found on the roof of a BMW in a scrap yard , plus a cone air filter he had used for a short while before changing his intake system.
Looking at the parts I thought there would be a good chance it could work , providing the diameter on the bend matched my throttle body.
So. At 9.15 this morning after returning from having a back tooth pulled out , I decided to see what I could do.
It went on like it was made for it !!!!
I need to fabricate a bracket to hold it secure , but the anaesthetic was wearing off so it has a zip tie for now.
Claims are of a 2-4 mpg increase and better throttle response etc.
I shall report my findings in due course.
It's not really a true cold air intake as it has no shield from engine heat. But worth a try.
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Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:33 pm
by Cosmicfish
It should make for better throttel response with the cone filter

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:43 pm
by Mossy68
Cosmicfish wrote:It should make for better throttel response with the cone filter

Obviously the first thing I'll be testing !!!!
Add that to the bonus induction noise and I think it will be a while before I see any mpg benefit ( if any )

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:45 pm
by terryr
you will fit right in with the corsa lads at maccy ds
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:49 pm
by Mossy68
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:50 pm
by Trigger_Andy
The Insurance company might be interested to hear about this mod as well. In light of my recent smash Im doing everything by the book in the future.
It was days after the Jeep was hauled away I realized I had a chip under the hood for better BHP and Economy. Luckily I had disconnected it due to Diesel knock. Not sure if they have even noticed it yet but as I have the cheque now maybe its to late for them to do anything anyway?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 9:53 pm
by Mossy68
Trigger_Andy wrote:The Insurance company might be interested to hear about this mod as well. In light of my recent smash Im doing everything by the book in the future.
It was days after the Jeep was hauled away I realized I had a chip under the hood for better BHP and Economy. Luckily I had disconnected it due to Diesel knock. Not sure if they have even noticed it yet but as I have the cheque now maybe its to late for them to do anything anyway?
Good point.
From my research I've read the chips don't work any way ?
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 10:18 pm
by db
That's a hell of a lot neater, and a bonus if it works better too!
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 10:22 pm
by Mossy68
db wrote:That's a hell of a lot neater, and a bonus if it works better too!
Well its cost me 11 quid. A tenner for the tube and filter and a pound for the breather pipe ( the stock one was 2 " short )
Worth a shot in my book.

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 10:30 pm
by Trigger_Andy
Well I only ran mine for a few hours so hard to say. I think diesel chips perform better than petrol ones? I don't really know though?
Interested to see how your bodge works though.
Mossy68 wrote:Trigger_Andy wrote:The Insurance company might be interested to hear about this mod as well. In light of my recent smash Im doing everything by the book in the future.
It was days after the Jeep was hauled away I realized I had a chip under the hood for better BHP and Economy. Luckily I had disconnected it due to Diesel knock. Not sure if they have even noticed it yet but as I have the cheque now maybe its to late for them to do anything anyway?
Good point.
From my research I've read the chips don't work any way ?

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 10:36 pm
by Mossy68
Trigger_Andy wrote:Well I only ran mine for a few hours so hard to say. I think diesel chips perform better than petrol ones? I don't really know though?
Interested to see how your bodge works though.
Mossy68 wrote:Trigger_Andy wrote:The Insurance company might be interested to hear about this mod as well. In light of my recent smash Im doing everything by the book in the future.
It was days after the Jeep was hauled away I realized I had a chip under the hood for better BHP and Economy. Luckily I had disconnected it due to Diesel knock. Not sure if they have even noticed it yet but as I have the cheque now maybe its to late for them to do anything anyway?
Good point.
From my research I've read the chips don't work any way ?

Bodge !!!
Apart from the zip tie , that's a proper induction kit !!!

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 10:59 pm
by andyrob

not so sure about this, you are now sucking air from the hot engine bay instead of cold air been rammed in from behind the front bumper, looks better though
Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 11:50 pm
by drewcrane
andyrob wrote:
not so sure about this, you are now sucking air from the hot engine bay instead of cold air been rammed in from behind the front bumper, looks better though
Yea you could make a surround air box to isolate it and feed some cool air in to it,I have a similar unit on my Modern challenger

Posted: Wed Feb 11, 15 11:52 pm
by Trigger_Andy
Would it not just be easier just to have left the Jeep the way it was and then installed a K&N filter?
drewcrane wrote:andyrob wrote:
not so sure about this, you are now sucking air from the hot engine bay instead of cold air been rammed in from behind the front bumper, looks better though
Yea you could make a surround air box to isolate it and feed some cool air in to it,I have a similar unit on my Modern challenger

Posted: Thu Feb 12, 15 4:43 am
by drewcrane
Trigger_Andy wrote:Would it not just be easier just to have left the Jeep the way it was and then installed a K&N filter?
drewcrane wrote:andyrob wrote:
not so sure about this, you are now sucking air from the hot engine bay instead of cold air been rammed in from behind the front bumper, looks better though
Yea you could make a surround air box to isolate it and feed some cool air in to it,I have a similar unit on my Modern challenger

Yea but there are so many debates over this , it depends on how restrictive the stock unit is compared to a nice free flowing unit like Mossy made for a pittance and it works ,probably a little better than stock.
My thing up where we live , we need all the air we can get , hot or cold...
