Power assist steering.

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Power assist steering.

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Can anyone tell me the company who sells power assist steering package for the 60s / 70s Mopars that has the updated style of power steering rather than the original over assist that seem to give you little or no feedback from the road?

I have seen a place some time ago but cant place where I saw them!

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You're probably thinking of Borgeson.

https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/home.php?cat=143
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do you have a Saginaw pump

you might get away with little or no investment other than time

You can screw out the outlet barb and under it is a little valve with a spring and some shims on it if you thicken the shim you reduce the Pressure and thus increase effort from floaty light to "ok" or to oooh my shoulders.

if you go too far you will feel notchiness

more detail here the links don't work but there is enough to get the gist in the posts

http://www.forbbodiesonly.com/moparforu ... eel.35970/

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if you buy a borgeson box get it from a mopar place that does kits

otherwise you will have to source metric to US power steering hoses and you won't get a pot/slider link for column to the box.


so you'd need to get it from these geezers who provide the lot

http://bergmanautocraft.com/products.php?cat=1

if you buy it from borgeson you will end up having to either hack off the end of you column inner or weld/bolt in a UJ making it a none reversible change

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Post by TW71 »

Thats the one!

Thank you both gentleman.

I fitted manual steering many years ago to reduce clutter and save a little power.

I still have the old setup but the new lighter box seems a good way to go together with the correct fittings.

Many thanks again.
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Post by Blue »

Have a look on Moparts, I'm sure there was a thread about the Borgeson box, it was less than complimentary from what I recall. Personally I wouldn't deviate from factory style steering components, I've yet to hear of good feedback from any of the conversions I've read about. Unisteer rack conversions are problematic as well.
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Jeeeez Dave, there's a lot of knowledge kicking about that head of yours !
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if you have manual steering re build the box with a 20:1 or 16:1 ratio

its not hard at all did a write up somewhere

would suggest 16:1 is too much its manageable in my car but I only have 3/4 of an engine.....

20:1 and some + castor and you'll have plenty of feel

combine that with C body track rods and ends

a urethane or bearing based idler bush and jobs an goodun.

here is a RHD 20:1 for reasonable

you just need to turn the nut round on the worm for LHD

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mopar-NOS-Std ... 1438.l2649


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Post by TW71 »

Thanks Dave for your information.

I would rather keep the manual steering , the caster seems OK but I would like some more but that's at the cost of more struggle I guess.

Its has not got aftermarket upper control A arms so It could use the Moog offset bushes I guess but I think I would rather go for the aftermarket kit to dial in more caster which I understand you can (if I reduced the struggle steering as well!) :thumbright:

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The Moog offset bushes don't give you much, if your car has much of a rake you'll still struggle to get much caster. Adjustable upper arms are the only way to go if you want to dial in a reasonable amount. I'll be trying a fixed set that's supposed to have 4 degrees more than stock built in on the Barracuda, I have about zero caster right now, we'll see how that pans out.
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What weight do you think it is Blue?
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3200-3300lb I'm guessing.
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