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E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 23 8:54 pm
by autofetish
Dodge charger 68
Complete fuel system only 6 years old
Torques (EBay) AN10 hose - feed and return
Cheap pump gas only E10
Car gets used very little and has sat for 3 years with fuel in the lines
Went to start it up and all the fuel lines are Bananarama! fuel
Seems the E10 has rotted all the lines !!!
I can’t believe it - check yours
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 23 8:56 pm
by autofetish
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 23 9:05 pm
by Pete
Yes, we had a Corvette with EFI and AN Hoses in the garage, it had stood a long time before the customer sent it to us (From Spain!!).
EFI runs at least 45 psi with the pump in the tank, and when went to start the car, there was fuel all over the place as the main line went porous.
On the above guidance, when I had to re-do the fuel system on the Challenger (to meet "revised Scrutineering requirements) I followed "Torques" Advice and installed all Teflon pipes and new fittings.
The only good thing is that the new lines are far less bulky and an AN-10 Line looks like and AN-6 old style line.
That's progress for you....
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 07, 23 9:28 pm
by mopar_mark
I hope you have better luck than me, quite a few years back, I ran Torques fitting on my fuel supply. System was fine when starting up, no leaks, etc.
If I left it a week or so & fittings would leak till they had soaked with fuel, leak would then stop. I obviously wasn’t a fan of fuel spraying out, so stepped up to BMRS Fiitings & limes, never had an issue since.
I also had an issue with their black hose going hard on any of the oil lines.
I know others have used Torques with success, so good luck
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Wed Feb 08, 23 9:24 am
by Blue
I've used Torques exclusively for several years now without issue, but I don't use E10. Given all the internet chatter about E10 attacking fuel lines and the probability that the ethanol percentage in pump fuel is liable to increase as time goes on, I'm now using teflon lined hose.
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 23 9:27 am
by SJH
I use teflon lined AN fittings on the Charger but use Gates Barricade hose on the Ford model A
https://www.moss-europe.co.uk/fuel-hose ... 1031x.html
cheers
Shayne
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Thu Feb 09, 23 11:23 am
by Stu
Good link, thank you.
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 23 2:29 pm
by Dave81
Did all of mine a few years ago now. Went with Teflon braided due to the Ethanol content and sitting for long periods. Do yearly checks, but so far i've not had an issue.
Bit more cost initially, but I wanted fit and forget (less worry).
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 23 7:00 pm
by Derek
I took these off a 64 Impala on Sunday, fire waiting to happen.
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 23 9:03 pm
by mopar_mark
Derek wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 23 7:00 pm
I took these off a 64 Impala on Sunday, fire waiting to happen.
That was a good save
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 23 8:23 pm
by TIB3300
After seeing your post here it prompted me to re'post one of mine from years ago
After some looking it to the fuels again, came across with this
Esso Synergy petrol
What’s in our Synergy Supreme+ 99 premium petrol?
Our Synergy Supreme+ 99 petrol has more cleaning power than our regular petrol – and includes molecules engineered to reduce friction in your engine and help moving parts work more efficiently.*
Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is ethanol-free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol.
There’s currently no requirement for renewable fuel, like ethanol, to be present in super unleaded petrol. However, if this changes in the future, we will comply with any new legislation.
https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels
Re: E10 - Fuel eaten my fuel lines !
Posted: Tue Feb 28, 23 12:58 pm
by Dave81
TIB3300 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 23 8:23 pm
After seeing your post here it prompted me to re'post one of mine from years ago
After some looking it to the fuels again, came across with this
Esso Synergy petrol
What’s in our Synergy Supreme+ 99 premium petrol?
Our Synergy Supreme+ 99 petrol has more cleaning power than our regular petrol – and includes molecules engineered to reduce friction in your engine and help moving parts work more efficiently.*
Although our pumps have E5 labels on them, our Synergy Supreme+ 99 is ethanol-free (except, due to technical supply reasons, in Devon, Cornwall, North Wales, North England and Scotland). Legislation requires us to place E5 labels on pumps that dispense unleaded petrol with ‘up to 5% ethanol’, including those that contain no ethanol.
There’s currently no requirement for renewable fuel, like ethanol, to be present in super unleaded petrol. However, if this changes in the future, we will comply with any new legislation.
https://www.esso.co.uk/en-gb/fuels
I remember hearing it was the same with Tesco 99 = Ethanol free. Problem they had, is that it was also regional and dependent on which refinery/storage depot the tanker came from. Only run mine on 98/99 anyway, but always expect it to have ethanol in.
Watched a BBC archive film of John Dodd and the Beast. He used to run that monster on two star back in the day. I remember 4 star (still young), but that's as far as my memory goes. They keep 'improving' things for efficiency etc. Just gets more complicated and impacts on items that were never intended to run on it.
I wonder how lone before we get E85?