no disrespect to responsible staffie owners

Dart Vader · Post by **Dart Vader** » Wed Aug 05, 15 11:06 pm

My dog (Guinness the black Lab) got started on by a staffie on Saturday, the Staffie started it, Guinness finished it but did come away with badly bitten leg. The staffie was owned by a guy I know and showed no signs of the attack, it just kicked off and guinness was just nearest. It's just flipped, no growl, no warning just mental

Few trips to the vet and an op and I'm grand down.

Luckily Guinness is insured so it's only cost the excess of 90 quid.

My point being, Staffies have a lock jaw bite, the damage can be so severe from one bite it can be horrific.

The thing that makes me so shocked by it is that if my dog had been a child imagine the injury.

I'm not one for saying they are all devil dogs, far from it, I know 2 which are great big soppy things, Fingers (former member) has one and Diesel up the farm where I keep my car are great.

BUT

I can see why they have this bad reputation, I hate to say it but if you can't trust your dog then surely it has to be muzzled. That goes for all breeds, from the little yappy russels to big loping danes.

Guinness is ok, and won't bare a grudge, I just have to chalk it up as being the attack and defence mechanism of animals but I can see why people steer clear of staffies as a rule.

Grrr rant over

GJUK · Post by **GJUK** » Wed Aug 05, 15 11:14 pm

It's the retards that own them that are the problem.

Hope your dog recovers 100%.

Dart Vader · Post by **Dart Vader** » Wed Aug 05, 15 11:42 pm

Cheers

Trigger_Andy · Post by **Trigger_Andy** » Thu Aug 06, 15 4:55 am

Are you pursuing the Staffie owner for damages?

Charger · Post by **Charger** » Thu Aug 06, 15 8:16 am

GJUK wrote:It's the retards that own them that are the problem.

Hope your dog recovers 100%.

i agree, but please don't tar us all with the same brush

morgan · Post by **morgan** » Thu Aug 06, 15 8:41 am

Trigger_Andy wrote:Are you pursuing the Staffie owner for damages?

Pointless. When my poor old greyhound was set on (wasnt a staffie) the council, police and dog warden dont want to know. Nothing they can do dog-on-dog. Your best hope is to get bitten yourself when defending your dog - then you can get the thing put down.

GJUK · Post by **GJUK** » Thu Aug 06, 15 9:02 am

Charger wrote:
GJUK wrote:It's the retards that own them that are the problem.

Hope your dog recovers 100%.
i agree, but please don't tar us all with the same brush

them = dogs, not just this specific breed.

Charger · Post by **Charger** » Thu Aug 06, 15 9:17 am

GJUK wrote:
Charger wrote:
GJUK wrote:It's the retards that own them that are the problem.

Hope your dog recovers 100%.
i agree, but please don't tar us all with the same brush
them = dogs, not just this specific breed.

as in all walks of life it's the irresponsible minority that get a bad rep for everyone else

John · Post by **John** » Thu Aug 06, 15 9:46 am

morgan wrote:
Trigger_Andy wrote:Are you pursuing the Staffie owner for damages?
Pointless. When my poor old greyhound was set on (wasnt a staffie) the council, police and dog warden dont want to know. Nothing they can do dog-on-dog. Your best hope is to get bitten yourself when defending your dog - then you can get the thing put down.

What was the breed of dog Morgan?

My dogs (English Bull Terriers) have been attacked by Border Collies, chocolate labradores, black labradores and jack russells. Mine are always on a lead and the attacking dogs are not. then when the attacking dogs end up in trouble its the Bull breeds fault which really cheeses me off.
I dont take mine out anymore and dont think I will have another dog full stop.

vipergts · Post by **vipergts** » Thu Aug 06, 15 11:51 am

Sorry to hear about your dog

I've had 4 Staffs and in particular 2 we had before any kids came along and when they did (all 4 of them) the Staffies never ever showed any sign of dodginess.

In fact Staffies are know ans the "nannydog" as they litterally look after you and your kids. (They say the second best dog to have with nippers next to a Lab)

Now the problem is that people buy them as a dog to try and make themselves look tough.....and the kind of idiots that do this are generally the type that bring them up tough

Always the owners fault

Dave81 · Post by **Dave81** » Thu Aug 06, 15 1:14 pm

Way before I dropped into my career I used to do Multidrop delivery driving. All around Birmingham so what do you think was the most viscous Bananarama! that I tangled with:

One of these........

NO!

One of these........

NO

How about.......

Nope.......

I can safely say that in 25 months and a whole lot of deliveries I never had beef with any dog apart from 3........YES 3 of these little Bananarama!:

Had one biting my ankles all the way up the garden path in Smethwick......Old owner, just shouted at the dog to play nice. I nearly stepped on the little Bananarama!! He's biting me and the owner was saying to me don't hurt him!:roll:

Same with letter boxes. Big dogs couldn't give a Bananarama!. These Bananarama! want sausages all day long!!!!

Dave81 · Post by **Dave81** » Thu Aug 06, 15 1:16 pm

Hope the dog recovers quickly Justin!

Father in Law has always had Labs.....He's got a chocolate lab at the mo. Daft as a brush and great with my little un!

Even more surprising as the FIL has always had rescue dogs.

Cannonball · Post by **Cannonball** » Thu Aug 06, 15 2:02 pm

I have a staff.called Bentley he is crackers wants everyone that visits to be his best mate he is so strong and powerfull he knocks hell out of em, but has not bit anyone or another dog my daughter has come back here to live with her yorkie that dog has little man syndrome tries it on with my Bentley he just pads him off like you do as much to say f off you silly little Bananarama!, and yes the yorkie jumps up bitin peoples hands when they come in the gate Bentley just wants attention, i got two grandkids that are here most times i trust Bentley more than the little yorker,

Staffs have a bad rep but they are utterly faithfull, my dad bred them in the 70,s we knew them in and out yes most do want to fight other dogs thats in the breed, but poor owners billy big bollax people have them as hard case accessories, they are the Bananarama! causing much concern, next doors lab cross with something bit me the other day at his gate my fault he was doing his job, my staff aint bit anyone, i hope long may iy continue,,

Adrian Worman · Post by **Adrian Worman** » Thu Aug 06, 15 2:16 pm

Ha yeah Bents the mad lil Bananarama! he makes me laugh & Fudge is the gobby wee jumpin b@stard ain't he?
Dead right tho I've never met a bad dog, only bad people

Dart Vader · Post by **Dart Vader** » Thu Aug 06, 15 2:48 pm

totally agree that its not generally the dog, more the upbringing of said dog.

I guess my main rant is that the amount of damage from one bite is extrordinary.

I totally agree that proper owners can control their dogs and that yes, the mindless few that have them as Trophy Dogs should be banned from having any animal

Sadly there are a number of these Trophy Staffs where we live, it got so bad with one called Caesar that lives close by that I have to take my dog in the car up to the park, rather than walk him past Caesars house as this thug of a dog jumps the fence and attacks. He has had warnings about it, its mainly at other dogs but I guess it could be a matter of time when it has a go at someone.

Guinness is on mend, a bit whiney, understandibly but should be OK

No point chasing other owner for the costs, it just goes as been dog on dog encounter

J