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Trying to sort out the brakes at the moment.

I had a faulty brass fitting that wouldn't seal. Then I went and stripped the threads trying to tighten it. :roll:

So I had a pair of braided hoses made up with steel fittings.

However the steel fittings were slightly too short for the ports on the master cylinder. So I had to cut the master cylinder to get a sealed fit.

In the end I found that only 2mm would have done. But never mind.
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Ready to bleed the lines.
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Flexy hose makes bench bleeding much easier.
Flexy hose makes bench bleeding much easier.
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How much for the flexi braided hose Dave? if you don't mind me asking and where from?
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rich, speedflows the place to get them from
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Cheers Andy :thumbright:
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£42 from Speedflow which is probably twice as much as they would have cost from Jon B on here.

You will need to know exactly what fittings you need for each end.

Most master cylinders like this Strange Engineering one are 1/2" - 20 inverted flare.

The brake hardline fittings on mine are 3/8 UNF inverted flare.
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Good to know Dave, I'll do research. :read2:
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very helpful speedflow though and quick
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Got the same lines on my MC - seem to work well :thumbright: had the very same problem with the adpator seating on the flare....

BTW, the MAP sensor looks a perfect fit :thumbright: - from where or what did it come from? Do I assume right they come in different ranges, and you have to calibrate with your LM1?
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Map sensors do come in different ranges. But they all output 0-5v. So it is just a matter of calibrating the range in the software. Easy to do.

If you look at the range of sensors on somewhere like the Summit Racing website you will see a few that look like this one. It is a generic part that fits most GM cars and trucks. This one came off a Chevy truck. It's range is something like 0-25 inches of vacuum.
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Yes, having had a 'root about' I see what you mean :thumbright:

I think what you are doin with the Innovate equipment is worthwhile :thumbright: Most folk wouldn't think twice about throwing 2 - 3 hundred at a motor to get a bit more in the way or horses. You'll probably gain that by dialing in what you have :read2:

Having seen some benefit with the Narrowband device I bought from you are couple of years ago, have decided to go a similar route :thumbright:
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The problem with narrowband is it is so innaccurate in the area where we need to tune our cars (around the 13:1 area). But it is better than nothing. Going wideband is just the next level up.
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Dave wrote:The problem with narrowband is it is so innaccurate in the area where we need to tune our cars (around the 13:1 area). But it is better than nothing. Going wideband is just the next level up.
And a smart place to be! Im amazed more people dont use them Dave, i really am. And relatively its not all that expensive.

The only thing i would say, is that ive found the innovate wideband not to be all that accurate/reliable in the longer term, though not to a level that is likely to be a serious problem on a car running a carb!
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Roger wrote:And a smart place to be! Im amazed more people dont use them Dave, i really am. And relatively its not all that expensive.

The only thing i would say, is that ive found the innovate wideband not to be all that accurate/reliable in the longer term, though not to a level that is likely to be a serious problem on a car running a carb!
I agree, surprise more don't use em.
Could the deteriorating accuracy be your O2 sensor? Dunno if you are using leaded fuel but they don't like lead! The meter should not deteriorate.
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MrNorm wrote:
Roger wrote:And a smart place to be! Im amazed more people dont use them Dave, i really am. And relatively its not all that expensive.

The only thing i would say, is that ive found the innovate wideband not to be all that accurate/reliable in the longer term, though not to a level that is likely to be a serious problem on a car running a carb!
I agree, surprise more don't use em.
Could the deteriorating accuracy be your O2 sensor? Dunno if you are using leaded fuel but they don't like lead! The meter should not deteriorate.
No, its not the sensor, its the box(es). We have 2 sets + a few more o2 sensors., and we have binned at least one meter recently. We seem to get through them a bit quick. To be honest, we are using them all the time so we have just ordered up a more robust/professional set up. The slightly concerning thing was we probably wouldn't have known had we not had more than one!
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Nearly there.

The hood is proving difficult to align.

The battery is either knackered or the charging system has packed in. Not sure which.

But apart from that she is a runner. :thumbright:

Needs a machine polish and the paint touched up in a few places. Nothing serious though.
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