Another Restorer Bites the Dust
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Another Restorer Bites the Dust
I found out today that rick Kisch, the fella who restores Mopar wiper motors to factory original (known as the 'Wiper Man') is no longer trading. All the guy did is 2 and 3 speed wiper motors and headlight door motors. Perfect restorations of each component. I wonder what happened there???? Glad I got mine done when I did. The small specialists seem to be dropping like flies over there.
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latil
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The sort of business that grew out of doing a few for mates,after work using the gear that work had.Unless he was doing all makes it would be hard to survive. Shame,but that's the way things are going.
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latil wrote:The sort of business that grew out of doing a few for mates,after work using the gear that work had.Unless he was doing all makes it would be hard to survive. Shame,but that's the way things are going.
You know I never thought of it like that Ste. He was very very specialist I suppose. He did all the re-plating (cad and zinc) re-wound the motors and put new gears in. Replaced the leads and plugs and that was te job done. It was one of those funny little restorers worth their weight in gold (if you needed their services). real pain to get it done now. You would have to involve a number of compaies to do all that and I am pretty sure cad plating is banned in EU now (or at the very least not worth doing).
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Anonymous
Apparently, MoPar were originally going to use Hammerite .... so according to Galen Goover, it is historically accurate. 
Cad plating is now getting marked down for concours judging.
See:-
www.howanalcanyourmoparbe.com
Gasp ...
Cad plating is now getting marked down for concours judging.
See:-
www.howanalcanyourmoparbe.com
Gasp ...
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Anonymous
Unfortunately, I have little respect for those sorts of practices Sandy. The self proclaimed Mopar experts who do that (and who incidentally are big fish in an absolutely minute pond) seem to make the the rules up as they go along. What is 'correct' and 'not correct', changes with the chancellor's foot.
I have seen pictures of totally original survivor B and E body cars (one owner jobs) with cad plated 3 speed wiper motors and I think its a bit rich for Darth Govier (who was probably wearing nappies when these cars were new) to all of a sudden 'decide' what is original or not. I bet there are a LOT of backhanders that float about to gain the seal of approval from these anally retentive judges, and therefore security of the cars value.
Sorry for the rant, but in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
I have seen pictures of totally original survivor B and E body cars (one owner jobs) with cad plated 3 speed wiper motors and I think its a bit rich for Darth Govier (who was probably wearing nappies when these cars were new) to all of a sudden 'decide' what is original or not. I bet there are a LOT of backhanders that float about to gain the seal of approval from these anally retentive judges, and therefore security of the cars value.
Sorry for the rant, but in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
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Anonymous
Em, Clive, in the absence of a tongue-in-cheek smiley, I apologise. It was all meant as a joke ... 
It is a shame to see folk going out of business. There were several Ford folk doing great stuff on the little restoration details (especially when you step out of the huge Mustang scene). Getting emissions parts for 68, and 69, and 70 428 CJ engines is a nightmare as they were all different with different fittings, and there was one guy who did them at reasonable cost.
I suspect the 'reasonable cost' part is why he has gone.
Sadly won't be at the Nats, so bring the Charger up here so we can see it
All the best
It is a shame to see folk going out of business. There were several Ford folk doing great stuff on the little restoration details (especially when you step out of the huge Mustang scene). Getting emissions parts for 68, and 69, and 70 428 CJ engines is a nightmare as they were all different with different fittings, and there was one guy who did them at reasonable cost.
I suspect the 'reasonable cost' part is why he has gone.
Sadly won't be at the Nats, so bring the Charger up here so we can see it
All the best
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Sorry Sandy, when I got up today my sense of humour stayed put 
I agree with your point. Rick is the third specialist small volume mopar parts suppler that is going though difficulties that I have heard of. I am not too sure how much of a hand if any, Chryco have had in this. The other two I know of are entangled in legal bullying with Chrysler over copyright. I suppose in these lean financial times, companies are trying to protect revenue any way they can.
Pity you wont be at the Nats. Would have been good to talk tanks Unfortunately, as much as I love my car, I don't think I could put up with driving it all the way to Bonnie Scotland
I agree with your point. Rick is the third specialist small volume mopar parts suppler that is going though difficulties that I have heard of. I am not too sure how much of a hand if any, Chryco have had in this. The other two I know of are entangled in legal bullying with Chrysler over copyright. I suppose in these lean financial times, companies are trying to protect revenue any way they can.
Pity you wont be at the Nats. Would have been good to talk tanks
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Tanks are the reason I won't be there.
This year is going to be the last ever Beltring show, and for the first time ever, rather than being the week before the Nats, it is the same weekend.
Getting too old for war so I will hit this, but not too old for cars, so Nats next year.
Linda won't be at the Nats either as she has to to Spain for a conference.
This year is going to be the last ever Beltring show, and for the first time ever, rather than being the week before the Nats, it is the same weekend.
Getting too old for war so I will hit this, but not too old for cars, so Nats next year.
Linda won't be at the Nats either as she has to to Spain for a conference.
That is a shame.......funnily enough if you had asked me who "the wiperman" was I would have said Jules Daddio (what a great surname BTW 
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He also restores Mopar only wiper motors, plus a bunch of other Mopar stuff, he does top notch work (I did my own, but if I could have afforded it I'd have gone to him) http://www.julesdaddio.com/
Maybe that is one reason why Rick stopped - not enough room for two (or more?) people doing this. Whatever the reason, a shame..
).He also restores Mopar only wiper motors, plus a bunch of other Mopar stuff, he does top notch work (I did my own, but if I could have afforded it I'd have gone to him) http://www.julesdaddio.com/
Maybe that is one reason why Rick stopped - not enough room for two (or more?) people doing this. Whatever the reason, a shame..
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Pete the imfamous Metalman of LA., has also bit the Death Valley Dust!
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Pete the imfamous Metalman of LA., has also bit the Death Valley Dust!
His Portfolio is the best I have ever seen
Responsible for all the Metalwork on the West Coast.
Four Daytona's saved in the last three years!!!
Probably saved fifty Hemi cars from extinction
He was the MAN! Times is Bad
I had the pleasure of working with him
Five years of Mopar Heaven
Bacca.
Hey Bacca, does Paul know you are highjacking his account?
Not wishing to be the profit of doom, but I think the demise of these specialist restorers indicates a big hauling on of the brakes as regards Mopar values.
They have been allowed to grow beyond all sensible parameters in my view...you have Hemi Cuda convertibles valued in the millions in the past and the less desirable and far less rare alternatives have clung to their coat tails and enjoyed an unjustified rise in their values...but I think the world's financial situation has woken people up and they are coming to their senses.
Hence only the very best cars will deserve the attentions of specialist restorers and there are not enough truly special cars out there that haven't already been restored.
Not wishing to be the profit of doom, but I think the demise of these specialist restorers indicates a big hauling on of the brakes as regards Mopar values.
They have been allowed to grow beyond all sensible parameters in my view...you have Hemi Cuda convertibles valued in the millions in the past and the less desirable and far less rare alternatives have clung to their coat tails and enjoyed an unjustified rise in their values...but I think the world's financial situation has woken people up and they are coming to their senses.
Hence only the very best cars will deserve the attentions of specialist restorers and there are not enough truly special cars out there that haven't already been restored.
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Spot on Ivor. These guys have made their money off the back of this hobby for a while now but no-one is going to pay a fortune to restore a part for a 318 powered 1973 Mopar and there are just not enough of the 68-71 Hemi and 440 cars left out there to keep all these guys in business.
I am lucky in that I still have not got more money in my car as it could sell for. But that is increasingly harder to do and with people being more careful with their money the days of spending tens of thousands on restorations have probably gone. For a while at least.
I am lucky in that I still have not got more money in my car as it could sell for. But that is increasingly harder to do and with people being more careful with their money the days of spending tens of thousands on restorations have probably gone. For a while at least.