Morgans 68 Charger. Engine #3...

[morgan]

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So I found this.
Looks interesting. Out of a certain yellow Daytona that some of you may have heard of...
So thats this years winter project sorted. Another long slow thread on its way team. hahaha

[RW71]

Good stuff Morgan, a nice bit of history there.
Any plans yet?
Rich.

[RobTwin]

Did you get the home-made nose-cone too?

I hope that single plane manifold fits under a stock hood

[morgan]

Morning...

Rich - yeah, it is a bit of history. I'll write down what I can and put it in Chargers history file. Quite an interesting engine really.
I have got the paperwork from when Bob had it built 20 odd years ago. Seems to be the right bits - Keith Black pistons, hemi rods etc. I understand it ran high 11s in the (pretty much full weight) daytona - which must put it somewhere up near the 500hp mark I'd have thought.
The block itself came from a Jenson prototype apparently - I gather they made 20 engines for a planned 4x4 car that never made production and the engines were then got rid of. This one ended up being refined and tuned for the Daytonas race career.

Not even planning to crack it open. We all know the life its had, but it doesnt seem to knock or rattle, doesnt smoke and I'm gonna do like 1000 miles a year tops. I am going to change the 800+carb down to something more streetable, Hook up my all in one MSD setup, Bolt on the TTis, run with the cam its got for now and see how we go... Will paint it silver first obviously. While the engine is out I will tidy up the leaky steering box etc and fit the line-lock - all jobs that are easier when you can stand in it.

Thats pretty much it. We'll see.


Rob - Yeah, lower intake might be needed.
Oh, and the Daytona nose ? For sale... It was all I could do for my boy not to buy it for his bedroom wall.
Amazed nobody has snapped it up for a piece of wall art - it would look AWESOME.

[Blue]

With a drop base air cleaner that manifold should fit under a stock bonnet. leave the big carb on it, they are plenty streetable.

[Dave999]

Mmmm

were the heads or block cast/machined on the Isle of Sheppey?
if they have weird numbers that defeat the usual tools.....???

chrysler US used to get prototype stuff made over here....
if jensen wanted something special it might have come from sheppey, certainly easier on the shipping.

seemingly they did blocks and special heads for hemis and 440s...

can't remember the name of the company....

4X4 jensen was the FF they did make some 4 wheel drives.
so did Chrysler US, a road runner i think

The Ferguson Four (FF) wheel drive tech lives on more or less as Quatro and Syncro with VW/Audi albeit advanced and enhanced

Dave

[MrNorm]

You little tinker!!!

[Blue]

Weslake did some head development work for Chrysler and had small batches of heads cast most of which seem to have found their way out into public ownership. Not heard of them casting any blocks though.

[Pete]

Well done, Morgan.

I think you will find Bob was using a bit of Spray to run those times....

[Cannonball]

I don't know what you are used to Morgan but that is going to feel fkn quick as a street car to you,

Jensen did not have any special blocks or heads made or played with over here, everything was stock as a rock as it came from Chrysler, Only thing that was a bit special is the fact they bought the Chrysler inventory of complete 440 sixpack engines with matching transmissions circa 350 of the beauty,s,

And another that I would love to find and own but no chance as the guy is a hoarder and knows its worth, is a machine called a FFF 100 its a Jensen FF chassis with a fibre glass body on it not disimilar to a bloated lotus esprit the kicker is it had a full tilt keith Black Hemi in it 600 hp Tflite with FF transfer unit

and blew the 0-100-0 record in to the weeds was built by gkn engineering with help to show of there wares tremendous machine I want it

So I would assume you have a stock 440 block from an old Jensen but so what they are all great blocks

Jensen did in fact build 320 FF Ferguson Formula 4x4cars in mk1 mk2 and mk3 variants not only were they 4 wheel drive they also had a crude but effective Dunlop maxeret anti lock braking system on them, for the time a very pioneering mtr car they still feel great to drive now, I have one no 88 from the production line,,


And just one more In the early 90,s Jensen were still going sort of after going bust in the mid/late 70,s they always soldierd through-just under a guy now called Hugh wainwright because b/rb block mopar engines were now gone the new cars were being fitted with 360 engines and fuel injection not really enough guts to propell a 4,000lb car like a New Jensen owner would expect, so he had his guys build a 440 and have stageiv Hemi cylinder heads fitted to his personnal car using it as a test bed along with a 4 speed auto hoping it would all work out well and was the future for the Interceptor, not to be the firm went bust again, and all assets sold off i believe that Pete Jordan and Martin saville bought that engine and it now resides in that awesome 69 super bee,

Sorry for off topic but i am a mega fan off Jensen cars to,,

[Scooby]

Morgan...are you sure about this.....you know its going to be painful....and expensive. But ha ho its a mopar after all !!
Good luck mate look forward to seeing-hearing it at some point in the future...
Rich.

[morgan]

In no particular order...

Scooby - that's not comforting...
Gav - Smirk
Pete- No sniff for me. No racing for me. 30mph cruising, you know that... ( I know, I know... pointless. But now it can go to 11 !)
Cannonball - Far as I know its just a normal block nothing special. I just thought the history was interesting.

[Pete]

Duncan is right about the Stage V set up now in the Bee.

I will give you £5 if that car runs an 11 with you driving it!!!

[morgan]

Duncan is right about the Stage V set up now in the Bee.

I will give you £5 if that car runs an 11 with you driving it!!!

We'll never know... 25-30 maybe, but that joining a dual carriageway rather than a drag strip.

PS - I meant 'spinal tap - goes to 11' rather than 'runs an 11'. hahaha - I can see why that was confusing

[Pete]

1/4 mile figures are the only currency worth discussing!