Exhaust heat riser modification ?
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- shaungriff
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Exhaust heat riser modification ?
When I brought my cj at would barely run at low speeds due to the fuel boiling in the carb & tremendous intake heat (temp gauge ok) which was caused by the flap in the exhaust manifold being closed all the time forcing hot exhaust through the intake, I've fixed the flap into continuous open position & it now runs so much better. However if I get stuck in traffic & the temp gauge begins to climb a bit the idle starts becoming lumpy & I can see bubbles appearing in the fuel filter (on top of the intake) like the fuel is starting to vapourise, I've wrapped the fuel hoses in foil to try help. Is it best to fit a metal fuel filter or do you guys have any other cures ? Thanks shaun
1973 Chrysler CJ 360ci
metal can away from the heat would be fine
but if it is touching the engine would be worse....
what is your ignition timing at idle?
what is the timing at 2500+
they run hot and slightly rich when they have too little initial timing.
how black is your tail pipe?
well they run hot for many reasons
low coolant
poor fan to radiator clearance
lost all the gunk in the viscous fan coupling
no shroud
stuck thermostat
blocked radiator
radiator cap seal poor
collapsing pipes
slipping belt
head gasket??
corroded pump vanes
erm any number of reasons
but try something easy first
but modern petrol burns slower and hotter than the old 4 star so they do need a little more initial advance than the workshop manual states in order to be happy
however don't add so much that you make total advance with the vacuum can disconnected more than 34*
if you can't add any more initial its time to think about a modified/recurved or different distributor with a shorter timing curve.
set it to 10 or 12 initial and go for a gentle drive see how you go
keep in mind that it will ping at higher RPM if the advance strays past a specific point north of 30 (usually around 34) over 3000 rpm so don't go there until you have checked total advance.
many will be running something like 10-15 initial and a total advance of 28-32
not 5* or 8* BTDC as the workshop book states
impossible with the standard distributor.
yours will potentially be a Bosch or Lucas distributor
I can tell you how to modify the Bosch one, you need to be bale to braze.
or swap it for a US 360 distributor and you can then buy an advance limiting kit to experiment with (none destructive modification using bolt on parts)
Dave
but if it is touching the engine would be worse....
what is your ignition timing at idle?
what is the timing at 2500+
they run hot and slightly rich when they have too little initial timing.
how black is your tail pipe?
well they run hot for many reasons
low coolant
poor fan to radiator clearance
lost all the gunk in the viscous fan coupling
no shroud
stuck thermostat
blocked radiator
radiator cap seal poor
collapsing pipes
slipping belt
head gasket??
corroded pump vanes
erm any number of reasons
but try something easy first
but modern petrol burns slower and hotter than the old 4 star so they do need a little more initial advance than the workshop manual states in order to be happy
however don't add so much that you make total advance with the vacuum can disconnected more than 34*
if you can't add any more initial its time to think about a modified/recurved or different distributor with a shorter timing curve.
set it to 10 or 12 initial and go for a gentle drive see how you go
keep in mind that it will ping at higher RPM if the advance strays past a specific point north of 30 (usually around 34) over 3000 rpm so don't go there until you have checked total advance.
many will be running something like 10-15 initial and a total advance of 28-32
not 5* or 8* BTDC as the workshop book states
impossible with the standard distributor.
yours will potentially be a Bosch or Lucas distributor
I can tell you how to modify the Bosch one, you need to be bale to braze.
or swap it for a US 360 distributor and you can then buy an advance limiting kit to experiment with (none destructive modification using bolt on parts)
Dave
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- shaungriff
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timing …
my 383 likes 20deg initial 34deg max all in at 2500rpm
Dave’s laws ...
Dave’s tuning guide
ignition ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160214201 ... f=13&t=828
Dave’s tuning guide
carb ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160214202 ... =11&t=5308
loads on here about timing ...
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45873
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35148
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35679
my recent timing exploits ...
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46913
and some more of the same ...
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46806
my 383 likes 20deg initial 34deg max all in at 2500rpm
Dave’s laws ...
Dave’s tuning guide
ignition ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160214201 ... f=13&t=828
Dave’s tuning guide
carb ...
https://web.archive.org/web/20160214202 ... =11&t=5308
loads on here about timing ...
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45873
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35148
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=35679
my recent timing exploits ...
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46913
and some more of the same ...
http://www.moparuk.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=46806
Si
1970 Charger 500
383 | 4bbl | 727 column | PAS | PAB | buckets/buddy - check out my photos HERE
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1970 Charger 500
383 | 4bbl | 727 column | PAS | PAB | buckets/buddy - check out my photos HERE
If you don't want another same old brand-new car ... you could be DODGE MATERIAL
1970 Dodge Charger Registry - https://www.1970chargerregistry.com/
- shaungriff
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